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Questions, Questions

Marilyn Light

August 17, 2005

Copyright 2003

MarilyninOttawa
If you remember I had asked for some questions a couple of weeks back and am now prepared to provide some answers.

Almost any question you want answered was my request and four questions were presented.



1 - John asked "Marilyn, do you know how to measure the light in a GH using a digital camera? Or even a film camera ?"

To respond to this question, I first searched the internet for possible sources then asked someone knowledgeable about digital cameras for some pointers. Secondly, I posed some questions to myself.

A) What is the relevance of relative light level to hobbyist orchid culture? While high light levels are recommended for orchids such as Cymbidium and low light levels are said to be tolerated by orchids such as Phalaenopsis, we must be careful not to consider light out of context with temperature, humidity, air movement, light source and plant growth state.

B) What is the relevance of metering to meaningful light measurement? Plants use light for photosynthesis. They must be able to produce more photosynthetic product than they use in respiration in order to grow and ultimately flower but too much light especially when air movement is limited can be counterproductive. Irrespective of what a meter reads and what requirements are listed for a particular orchid, a good grower always looks to the plants for the final say as to whether the light level is or is not appropriate for their purposes.

C) What are the most important points to bear in mind when choosing a camera as a tool to measure light? Camera type is irrelevant except that one must be able to set the ISO or digital equivalent film speed manually or in a menu; and one must be able to read the aperture/f-stop and shutter speed/exposure setting.

So, in answer to John's question:

  • Step 1 - During the brightest time of the day, place a white sheet of paper where you wish to measure the light level.
  • Step 2 - 35 mm camera - Set film speed to ISO 100; digital camera - Set digital equivalent to ISO 100
  • Step 3 - Point the camera at the paper being sure not to shade the paper with the camera or your body. The paper image should fill the viewfinder.
  • Step 4 - Read the f-stop/aperture and shutter speed/exposure setting.
  • Step 5 - Refer to a published table such as is found at Linda's Orchid Page http://www.orchidlady.com/camera.html Read down the f-stop column and across the exposure setting row to arrive at the approximate light intensity in foot candles. Note that Foot-candles × 10 = Lux. A typical low light recommendation is 1000 foot candles for Phalaenopsis and about 2000-3000 for Cattleya.
  • Step 6 - Measure at various locations throughout the growing area at different times of the growing season. Apply shading, install supplemental lighting or move plants according to your observations. Watch the plants carefully for signs of leaf stress (reddening or yellowing indicating too much light for that plant under those conditions) or of etoliation (weak growths indicating too little light for that plant under those growing conditions).

Is that answer what you were looking for, John? Please remember that Camera type is irrelevant except that one must be able to set the ISO or digital equivalent film speed manually or in a menu; and one must be able to read the aperture/f-stop and shutter speed/exposure setting

Ed_in_Sat
Note of interest: most digitals will not set below ISO 200 because it is a function of the receptor sensitivity. I don't mean to make an issue, but below ISO 200 on a digital, be sure you are getting an actual reading, not an interpolated one.

John_in_Arcadia,_CA
Mine will. Thank you Marilyn. That is exactly what I wanted. I have copied it all down and will try it soon. I am sure it will work fine.

MarilyninOttawa
Thank you Ed. Not all digitals are alike. You likely need an advanced model with this function.

janetteh
The older the camera, the more luck you will have. Most of the newer ones are all automatic. The one that James uses for award pictures is about 30 years old but is totally manual and he can set it the way he wants/needs it.

MarilyninOttawa
Good point Janette. By the way, I use a very low tech measure of light level. I use a piece of white paper and my hand held between the light source and about one foot above the paper. I add shade cloth until the shadow just disappears. This gives me perfect lighting for Cattleyas, Catasetum, Vanda. Lower light or filtered light reaches the lower shelves and this is where I place the Phals and pleurothallids.


MarilyninOttawa
2 - Steve asked "I only have one burning question about orchids. That would be the cause of that disease that has been killing off my Phals. You saw the web site I made on that."

After the question was posed, it was suggested that Ed Wright might be dealing with this topic in detail at a future time. Meanwhile, suffice it to say that an unknown contagious microorganism seems to be involved in many of these instances. It is possible that there is more than one organism and that we are dealing with several parallel disease processes. I recommend that a grower first check to see if the cause is mites. These can be seen under the microscope. If there are no mites involved, then a decision must be made as to whether to dispose of an infected collection and start anew or to try and eliminate the causative agent(s) from the plants. There has been some success with various fungicidal preparations but if the source is not controlled, the problem could strike again. Sanitation in the growing area is very important. Do you have anything to add at this time, Ed?

Ed_in_Sat
I suggested privately to Steve that he might be dealing with a form of Psuedomonas. I also refenced some work I had participated in on gram negative bacterial pathogens in plants.

MarilyninOttawa
That is interesting. I have isolated pseudomonads from Cypripedium roots. These are motile bacteria that would move in water films and through splash but would be vulnerable to simple dryness if one could vacate a growing area and let it dry out. They would likewise be vulnerable to bleach solution when outside the plant but of course, if they are inside the plant, that presents a problem.

Ed_in_Sat
We found some relatively empirical evidence that they might cross over to create flu-like symptoms in mammals. That aspect was not funded or needed, so it was not explored, just noted.


MarilyninOttawa
3 - Tom in Kentucky asked: "How many taxonomists does it take to name an orchid species?"

Good question! Plant taxonomy was once and in some cases still is the domain of both professionals and amateurs working with collected material in the field and in herbaria. Herbaria are collections of pressed, dried specimens which may or may not have been well documented or even well preserved at the time of collection. Early workers lacked the instant communication possible today. Working in different places around the globe, one or sometimes two individuals might have been working with the same species without knowing of the other's work. Some published their suggested names without due diligence. This resulted in confusion and ultimately in guidelines where precedence of publication was the way names were accepted or not.

Secondly, the botanical community has to accept the nomenclature: even today there is dispute over which name is most appropriate to describe a species old or new. So, in answer to this question, it can take just one person to name an orchid or it can take many, one coming up with a better argument as to why a plant should have a particular name. Nowadays, molecular evidence is lending support to some old specific and generic epithets. These names still must be accepted within the botanical community which continues to be a source of much debate.

Does that answer your question about taxonomists?

pecteilis_in_KY(Tom)
If I wanted to grow a Laelia I think the safest thing to do would be to plant the label!


MarilyninOttawa
4 - Al asked: "How do you prepare your flower/plant for judging? Can they be staked? Just what is accepted and what's not?"

Staking can be used to effectively train and display blooms to their advantage but at the show, must never be intrusive or compete with the beauty of the blooms. You will probably want to stake during transport but these stakes may not be the ones used for display purposes. Poorly staked specimens can be unsightly. No stakes can mean that lovely spray of Phalaenopsis droops unattractively with the flowers all facing down.

Effective staking must begin while the spike is developing. Spikes are often brittle and can break if not dealt with early. Once buds are about to appear, be certain to keep the plant in the same position relative to the light source as this will keep the flowers properly aligned.

Choose unobtrusive stakes. These can be fine green-coated wire for Masdevallia to bamboo for Oncidium. Firmly but discretely attach the spike to the support. I use floral tape (green or brown). Be sure that the material will not damage the spike.

If your plant could be a winner then consider the impact of stakes in the award picture. The award photographer may have difficulty photographing your prize bloom if stakes clutter the backgound. Remember that it the exhibitor's responsibility to remove stakes, not the photographer.

Ed_in_Sat
Let me suggest that if staking is required for the type, do it early. Most staking problems I have seen resulted from staking a formed inflorescence for display purposes. That's too late.

John_in_Arcadia,_CA
Many at our hows are using those small plastic clip type things to fasten the spikes to a stake.

MarilyninOttawa
Some plastic clips look ugly because they are prominent and not hidden by foliage.

John_in_Arcadia,_CA
Most that I have seen are really quite small and the color of the stake. You can hardly see them

MarilyninOttawa
The ones I have seen locally have butterflies attached and are a bit much. If clips are unobtrusive then there should be no problem. I agree that floral tape can hide aborted buds. I have used a twist of florist wire (green) although you must take care that the wire does not dig in. As Ed said, train early and at that stage, emphasis should be on ultimate spike quality, not on appearance. Heavier support used during transport can be removed/replaced when you get to the show.

John_in_Arcadia,_CA
I have the type without the butterfly. They are much less obtrusive.

jeanne23_from_oz
Floral tape has been banned here in Oz because there were a number of growers hiding aborted buds and this cause a bit of an uproar at the time. Clips can be unobtrusive if placed properly.

Ed_in_Sat
If one has access to it, 'grape tape' comes in generous rolls and is much cheaper than floral tape, which it resembles. There are two grades - most orchid growers are happier with the lighter grade.

janetteh
[re:award photography] James will not remove stakes. He always has the owner, if available, to remove the stakes. Sometimes they have refused even though he explains that it will detract from the bloom. It is amazing at how they (stakes) will stand out in a picture.

MarilyninOttawa
Its their decision but I agree, the picture can never be a good as it could have been without that prominent stake.


MarilyninOttawa
Paul asked: "With bark getting sort of hard to find, is anyone using cypress mulch as a growing medium? Or what are you using?" Does anyone have a comment?

pecteilis_in_KY(Tom)
Osmunda if you live in Flas. Or coconut chips. last as long as bark, cheap, plentiful and easy to use.

MarilyninOttawa
Paul, I have no experience with cypress mulch but I do have with coconut husk chips which are working well with a wide range of orchids. You might want to try cypress mulch with some spare plants to see what happens.

Ed_in_Sat
Take precautions against snails in today's osmunda!!!

pecteilis_in_KY(Tom)
And red bugs. But still....

janetteh
We have several people here who have tried cypress and have had success with it. The secret is to amend it with charcoal or sponge rock to open up the media. Don't pack the cypress fiber too tightly in the pot.

jeanne23_from_oz
It seems that peat & perlite is the favourite mix for a lot of growers in Qld and I must say that there seems to be great success for those who are using it. I am a bark grower myself


pecteilis_in_KY
Can you "straighten" a phal sepal even though you know it will flip back at night?

MarilyninOttawa
Phal blooms mature over several days. What is reflexed may eventually straighten. You are not permitted to manipulate flowers for judging purposes. Perhaps Ed has something to add?

Ed_in_Sat
You have given the correct answer, Marilyn. I do feel, however, that the greater Vandaceous group may permit a bit of dressing. Many of these flowers rotate as they open, from a little to 180 degrees. I find nothing objectionable in setting flower elements into a natural plane. I HAVE seen Vanda flowers so 'realigned', however, that veins were square edged. That may be overkill.

jeanne23_from_oz
Sometimes a tissue can add enough weight to the sepal to keep it forward after placing it in the correct position.

MarilyninOttawa
I have noticed that phal blooms can disorient during transport. Careful packing with soft tissue between blooms can help control this. Be certain that the material used to support the petals does not abrade them.

MarilyninOttawa
Thank you Ed for the useful comments this evening and to everyone who joined in including the question-providers. The questions were thought-provoking.